A BIT OF OBJECTIVE HISTORY FOR SOME ..BY UNBIASED SOURCES
https://medium.com/athenslivegr/50-years-since-the-coup-detat-of-1967-71432a86108
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ReplyDeleteHave a good time Eleni !
This article, is indeed very comical to someone who has inside information about those events and knows the condition of Greece before, during and after this particular government.
ReplyDeleteIf the intention of the righter was to be helpful, to do something constrictive, for Greece and its population, not only, has failed bitterly, but he or she appears very shallow, very narrow minded and totally unprofessional as a journalist and even as a simple objective righter.
Save your self, farther embarrassment and delete this childish article, at once !!!
Gregory Tsoulos
Sigurd Malfait
ReplyDeleteGreetings Sigurd !!!
By all means, I am not referring to you. You are totally and completely excused and forgiven for not been aware of the events and not having a valid opinion !!!
Please be very well !!!
Gregory
ΓΡΗΓΟΡΗΣ TΣΟΥΛΟΣ This article aims to inform a reader of a different view so that the reader can make an informed decision.
ReplyDeleteBy posting this article, I ONLY condemn how the THE MILITARY HUNDA ruled Greece.
By posting this article, I don't support how other Greek governments, before HUNDA or after HUNDA, ruled Greece. Obviously they all fucked up.
Please respect my opinion just as I respect yours
I am not imposing my opinions to anyone. Please do the same.
Also note that this is posted in my own site and not on your community. I showed respect for the beliefs of your community,..if you noticed.
AS GREEKS, WHOSE MUTUAL GOAL IS THE WELFARE OF OUR COUNTRY, WE SHOULD SIMPLY AGREE TO DISAGREE AND NOT FIGHT OR HATE EACH OTHER
Sigurd Malfait this is posted here in the event you missed its prior posting at another post
ReplyDeleteplease forgive gregoris tsoulos.. he is a bit of a fanatic when it comes to some issues that he believes he has all the information that others do not have and should have and ultimately should believe in what he believes
This is a classic characteristic of many Greeks that I met on the Internet,..Grigoris means well but he is what he is.. He is a Greek at heart and that is the only thing that I consider the most
Having said all that, I draw your attention to the authoritative and imposing content of his comments, which, along with his repetitive failure to provide any references or even credible feedback of any sort, despite my repetitive requests for them via another post, and his justification for such failure with claims that I would not be able to comprehend it, evinces character attributes consistent with the ones exhibited by the Colonels of the Military Hunda.
To me the most revealing comment of his comment is the one below:
"This article, is indeed very comical to someone who has inside information about those events and knows the condition of Greece before, during and after this particular government.
If the intention of the righter was to be helpful, to do something constrictive, for Greece and its population, not only, has failed bitterly, but he or she appears very shallow, very narrow minded and totally unprofessional as a journalist and even as a simple objective righter.
Save your self, farther embarrassment and delete this childish article, at once !!!"
As you can see, he is ordering me to delete my own post from my own site as if both belong to him and as if I have no rights at all to both of them
He claims to have an insider information but does not bother to disclose that. He claims to know a different version of how Greece was prior to, during, and even after the MILITARY HUNDA ,..but does not disclose that either..As noted, even after I repetitively asked him for references or related information he refused to provide it and even asked me not to research it. In another post, he informed me that people will laugh at me for promoting this information. Anything but to engage in a civilized communication and sharing of ideas..you know..the very purpose of the INTERNET.
See odd comment at the link below
https://plus.google.com/+GovernmentGangStalkingandElectronicHarassment/posts/9MQxXGqy7BZ
See the opening phrase from one of his emails to me relating to the same subject matter
"Ελένη !!!!!.... ουδείς λόγος υπάρχει, να κανεις έρευνα σχετικά με τα γεγονότα του πολυτεχνείου."
The "DO AS I SAY, DO NOT DIG DEEPER BECAUSE I KNOW BEST AND I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND" attitude is a HUNDA based attitude. He even attacked your opinion as invalid instead of communicating with a credible brief explanation with equally credible references that could convince an inquisitive mind.
I noticed that rejecting the MILITARY HUNDA of 1967-1974 is interpreted by its minority supporters as follows:
1-That the people who rejected the MILITARY HUNDA are right wingers. How could they know what kind of political party did the Polytechnic students or the rest of Greece who hated them belong to? If they were leftists or rightists ? The polytechnic students did not include any political party (Left/Right) in any of their protesting slogans or claims. They simply fought for a free Greece from the enslaving, abusive, tyrannical and dictatorship based MILITARY HUNDA. The record clearly proves that to be a fact
2-That the people who rejected the MILITARY HUNDA liked the government before it and wanted Greece to have similar government. Once again, the polytechnic students did not include any political preferences and did not mention nor glorified any prior Greek governments. Similarly, the polytechnic students did not even mention who and what party they wanted to see in power. ALL THEY WANTED WAS A FREE GREECE.
ReplyDeleteThese issues seem to be part of the package against someone, like me, who dares to object the reign of the MILITARY HUNDA of 1967-1974.
This can easily be seen in Gregoris comment. It appears that he deleted one of his comments.In another comment he argued that if the right party wanted to do something good for Greece they would have done it afterwards. He then proceeded by asking why they did not do it then. These comments alone are the basis by which he tries to credit his support for the MILITARY HUNDA of 1967-1974.
This is also the basis and attitude by which he tries to draw support for , hence to campaign for, the GOLDEN DAWN PARTY. Making campaigning claims that you refuse to disclose proof of is a deadly strategy subject to failure by default.
With this type of behavior, he will fail to achieve his intended purpose. Similarly, I also add that even though I find some of the Golden Dawn's positions and claims appealing, their vocal support to the MILITARY HUNDA of 1967-1974 will turn not only me away but also many supporters that they seek to gain
SEE VIDEOS BELOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAl4FkxAKg
Η «αποθέωση του δικτάτορα Παπαδόπουλου» από τον Ευ. Καρακώστα και οι αντιδράσεις (Βουλή, 14/11/18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t18p9Vuqf5s
«Αυτό είναι το παραμύθι του Πολυτεχνείου!»: Χαμός με Λαγό στη Βουλή (15/11/18)
When I posted a related post into his community, without knowing that it had a pro-HUNDA agenda, he communicated his intent to delete it and asked me to do it instead. I complied with his conditions after he notified me of the agenda of his community. As you can see, he did not hesitate "TO ORDER ME " to delete similar posts that I posted into my own site.
I do not know if it is worth staying in his community. I did not like his behavior nor the level of his apparent impaired judgment . I am also tempted to block him but I invite independent opinions and this gives me a bit of a problem.
I also point out that his co-owner had a more civilized attitude towards the post that Gregoris ORDERED ME TO DELETE from their community. Instead of ordering me to delete it, he wanted to initiate a dialogue and to inform me .. He started by asking me what this event meant for me. The intent of his dialogue was not pursued further because Gregoris was putting a chronological ultimatum for its deletion...in the form of " IF IT DOES NOT GET DELETED WITHIN THE SO AND SO HOUR THEN..BLAH BLAH..."
The post at issue was this one:
plus.google.com - MY FELLOW GREEKS,...I HOPE YOU KNOW WHY I COULD NOT RESIST UPLOADING THIS OLD...
I had included my response to his co-owner on this post which was posted into my own site
I have some followers whose activist work I admire but I don't like some of their attacks on Trump. That does not mean I have to dislike the follower AND ORDER THEM TO DELETE POSTS OR TO THINK AS I DO AND TO BELIEVE WHAT I DO. I keep him because I like and respect his activism style. I think that is the very reason he stays as a follower too. We don't behave the way Gregoris does
In any event, I am sure that he will read this too
I hope that he understands the reason I left his community, which, by the way, does not disclose its pro-HUNDA agenda
ReplyDeletehttps://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/106826283963076900318
PLEASE IGNORE HIM
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Government GangStalking and Electronic Harassment I understand you very well.
ReplyDeleteThank you so very much for your work and posts.
All the best for Greece. !
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Sigurd Malfait THANK YOU
ReplyDeleteWhat can be done now in Greece for the people and Macedonia ?
ReplyDeleteIt is not bad to be conservative and to have respect for greek history and the Macedonia topic.
The left party(s) are destroying the greek culture.
A center party , with respect for greek culture and history is missing.
Also a strong, good pro-Greek PM is missing.
I dont understand the government who is against Greece and the greek people. There is huge unemployment for years, created by the government !
People are so disapointed in syriza that they look for another party with hope for a better future.
What america now is doing with FYROM is to have a strategy to russia and the balcan and to profit from the energy sources. They talk about the future of greece, but not the betterment of the people, it is all for the bancs and the elite.
I see the greek people , noadays feels betrayed by government. Some put their hopes in the golden dawn party. Some in nea democratia. Is there a good solution ???
The government put students in jail because they argue for Macedonie. It is very sad, very !!!
Traitors ! Almost the entire government.
Incomprehensible.
See you ! Thank you for your answer, your loyalty, your patience and understanding Eleni !!! 👍
Sigurd Malfait I thank you too for your support to all issues affecting my country.. I noticed that you refrained from commenting on my comment about Gregoris' conduct
ReplyDeleteSigurd Malfait you don't see anything wrong with people forcefully pushing you to believe their theories by claiming to have first hand knowledge and plenty of knowledge while, at the same time, refusing to disclose their first hand knowledge. Similarly, and with regard to his partner who made similar claims but disclosed only a generic claim of financial stability in Greece under Hunda in the form of a Japanese man informing him of it and making it it a fact worthy of precluding further research on it as well as precluding all other evil, Fascistic and Dictatorial things that Hunda was doing to the Greek people without considering credible evidence that proved that the financial stability, which was the only thing that both can produce in satisfaction of their claim to having first hand knowledge,.. was caused by the termination of multiple government services whose termination ONLY AIMED AT ENABLING THE COLONELS TO RULE GREECE AS DICTATORS... Read the references This is why Gregoris also advised me not to research further
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