Friday, November 30, 2018

CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE TRUTHS AND LIES IN THIS ARTICLE..?

CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE TRUTHS AND LIES IN THIS ARTICLE..?

https://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/junta.htm

NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE SUPPORTERS OF THE GREEK MILITARY HUNDA, ..I FAIL EACH AND EVERY TIME TO SEE THE BASIS UPON WHICH THEIR SUPPORT IS RESTED

PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME BECAUSE I FEEL THAT I MAYBE MISSING SOMETHING

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PLEASE DO THE SAME FOR THE ARTICLES BELOW

https://www.xpatathens.com/living-in-athens/survival-guide/greek-traditions/item/2208-athens-polytechnic-uprising-november-17-1973

https://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/november17.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Polytechnic_uprising

https://www.thepressproject.gr/article/51249/Greeks-Remember-Polytechnic-Uprising-40-Years-On

https://greece.greekreporter.com/2017/11/16/polytechnic-uprising-destitute-greek-republics-last-remaining-memorial/

https://greece.greekreporter.com/2018/11/16/how-the-athens-polytechnic-uprising-ideals-of-freedom-and-democracy-lost-their-glow/

https://psabuba.sk/static/files/364f13aaabc38e.pdf

https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/A-brief-review-of-the-Polytechnic-uprising/

https://greekcitytimes.com/2018/11/17/november-17-1973-uprising-of-the-polytechnic/

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/greece/junta-note.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Polytechnic_uprising

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/10/09/stylianos-pattakos-last-survivor-of-the-1967-greek-military-junt/

https://www.meetinthessaloniki.eu/en/the-military-junta-in-greece-1967-1974/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/23/newsid_2515000/2515819.stm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKyxKJ0mugQ
RR7215A GREECE: FIVE YEARS UNDER THE COLONELS

http://www.ovovideo.com/en/the-greek-military-group/
THE GREEK MILITARY COUP

http://www.athensinfoguide.com/history/t9-97-2junta.htm
THE GREEK MILITARY HUNDA REGIME

https://www.academia.edu/11587377/The_Greek_military_junta_of_1967-1974_Old_insights_new_questions_Harvard_University_May_2012_
The Greek military junta of 1967-1974Old insights, new questions
HARVARD UNIVERSITY DR.DIMITRIS SOTIROPOULOS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Junta_Trials

http://www.greeknewsagenda.gr/index.php/topics/culture-society/6386-two-conferences-on-the-colonels%E2%80%99-dictatorship-in-greece
Military Dictatorship (1967-1974) in retrospect: New historical approaches

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-coup-pattakos/last-survivor-of-greeces-1967-74-military-junta-dies-at-103-idUSKCN1290ME
Last survivor of Greece's 1967-74 military junta dies at 103

https://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/04/20/for-some-greeces-junta-lives-on/
For Some, Greece’s Junta Lives On

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1999/06/28/george-papadopoulos-dies/96ba40d6-2ab7-41df-a163-0bb961642750/?utm_term=.dabdf068c314

https://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1011&context=pols_pub
October 1982
The Greek Military Regime (1967-1974) and the Cyprus Question — Origins
And Goals Constantine P. Danopoulos San Jose State University

https://www.theguardian.com/news/1999/jun/28/guardianobituaries2
Georgios Papadopoulos
Key plotter of the colonels' coup in Greece, he survived with US backing but brought torture and economic ruin on his country

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1461319042000296804?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=cjsb19
GREEK DICTATORSHIP, THE US AND THE ARABS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4OS22eX58
Military Coup by the Colonels' Junta in Greece

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch26gr.htm
Democracy and Dictatorship in Greece

http://www.pappaspost.com/on-this-day-july-24-1971-us-involved-military-dictatorship-ends-in-greece/

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/nov/21/news/mn-35991
Clinton Says U.S. Regrets Aid to Junta in Cold War
Greece: American support for colonels' harsh regime has hampered efforts to bring Athens into a Balkans leadership role in line with Western policy.

https://www.greekboston.com/culture/modern-history/civil-rights-military-junta/


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250893576_Causes_of_the_1967_Greek_Coup


https://www.greecewebtravel.com/regime-colonels-greece.html
The Constitutional Government and the Military Regime

https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/04/21/the-economic-scandals-of-the-greek-military-junta-21-april-1967/
The Economic Scandals of the Greek Military Junta (21 April 1967)

https://www.greekboston.com/culture/modern-history/military-junta/
Overview of the Greek Military Junta

http://www.lse.ac.uk/Hellenic-Observatory/Assets/Documents/Publications/Past-Discussion-Papers/DiscussionPaper15.pdf
Were the Eagle and the Phoenix Birds of a Feather?
The United States and the Greek Coup of 1967 by Louis Klarevas Assistant Professor of Political Science City University of New York—College of Staten Island & Associate Fellow Hellenic Observatory—London School of Economics

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/europe/1970-01-01/greece-under-colonels
Greece under the Colonels, 1970

https://www.dw.com/en/the-junta-of-athens-and-the-greek-dw-program/g-38521185
The junta of Athens and the Greek DW program

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/opinion/Greeces-Watershed-Year.html
NY TIMES Greece's Watershed Year

https://www.thenationalherald.com/1551/greeces-junta-of-april-21-1967-missed-by-some/
Greece’s Junta of April 21, 1967 Missed By Some

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.2752/147800411X13105523597922
‘The Junta Came to Power by the Force of Arms, and Will Only Go by Force of Arms’ Political Violence and the Voice of the Opposition to the Military Dictatorship in Greece, 1967–74

https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/04/22/continued-legacy-greek-junta/
The continued legacy of the Greek Junta


https://www.greecetravel.com/mazarakis/wisdom/junta.html
The Military Junta in Greece (1967-1974)
A GOOD SUMMATION FOR MY TASTE WHICH, WHEN COMPARED WITH THE REST ARTICLES, LED ME TO DISLIKE THEM EVEN MORE


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THIS IS WHERE I WAS ON NOVEMBER 17, 1974, AT NIGHT AND ON THE DREADFUL NIGHT OF THE POLITECHNIO PROTESTS

"POLITECHNIO" STANDS FOR THE GREEK ENGINEERING UNIVERSITY OF ATHENS, (POLYTECHNIC)
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ENGLISH VERSION

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On the night of the 1974 events, I was heading from Kifissia in Athens to New Smyrna of Athens with my first cousin on his motorcycle. Traffic was jammed, and we got stuck in traffic for several hours near the area of Politechnio. My cousin kept cursing at me for being forced to drive me on an evening like that..

The next few days I went inside the Politechnio to get some pictures. I was blocked from entering by some students but later a black student, who spoke perfect Greek but with an African accent, let me inside because, as a kid in my early teens I did not look threatening to him nor did I look like I would do anything against the goals of the protesters.

On that same day, I took my film for development across the street and near the Politechnio. When I went to pick up my photos, the employee/owner told me that he had no pictures to give me because the film was burned.

A few days after that I saw my pictures being published in the Greek news papers. I bet he made some good money by selling my photographs to the Press.

I was there in its area on that dreadful night, I saw more than enough, I felt the pain and I was also deceived by the photographer a few days later. I know first hand what happened and I am very sad and angry because our great country had been misused and taken advantage of by so many corrupt government whose Greek background we don’t really know..

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GREEK VERSION

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Την νύχτα των γεγονότων του 1974, κατευθυνόμουν από την Κηφισιά στη Νέα Σμύρνη με τον πρώτο μου ξάδελο στη μοτοσικλέτα. Η κυκλοφορία ήταν μπλοκαρισμένη και έχαμε κολλήσει στην κυκλοφορία για αρκετές ώρες. Ο ξάδερφος μου συνέχισε να με βρήζει γιατί αναγκάστηκε να οδηγήσει σε ένα τέτοιο βράδυ ..

Τις επόμενες μέρες προσπάθησα να πάω μέσα στο Πολυτεχνείο για να τραβήξω κάποιες φωτογραφίες αλλά οι φοιτητές με εμπόδισαν να πάω μέσα. Aργότερα ένας μαύρος φοιτητής, ο οποίος μιλούσε άψογα ελληνικά αλλά με αφρικανική προφορά, με άφησε να πάω μέσα γιατί, ως παιδί δεκατριών ετών δεν με είδε σάν κάποιον που θα μπορούσε να θέσει σε κίνδυνο τους στόχους των διαδηλωτών.

Την ίδια ημέρα, πήρα το φίλμ μου σε ένα κατάστημα απέναντι και κοντά
στο Politechnio. Όταν πήγα για να πάρω τις φωτογραφίες μου, ο υπάλληλος / ιδιοκτήτης μου είπε ότι δεν είχε φωτογραφίες για να μου δώσει επειδή “ΟΛΟΚΛΗΡΟ το φίλμ μου είχε καεί”. Λίγες μέρες μετά, είδα τις φωτογραφίες μου να δημοσιεύονται στις ελληνικές εφημερίδες. Σίγουρα έκανε καλά χρήματα με την πώληση των φωτογραφιών μου

Ήμουν εκεί στην περιοχή εκείνη την φοβερή νύχτα στις 17 Νοεμβρίου 1974, είδα περισσότερο από αρκετά, αισθάνθηκα πολύ πόνο και επίσης εξαπατήθηκα με την πώληση των φωτογραφιών μου

Γνωρίζω από πρώτο χέρι τι συνέβη και είμαι πολύ λυπημένη και θυμωμένη γιατί η μεγάλη μας χώρα είχε καταστρατηγηθεί και εκμεταλλευτεί από τόσες πολλές διεφθαρμένες κυβερνήσεις των οποίων το ελληνικό υπόβαθρο δεν γνωρίζουμε. Είμαι επίσης θυμωμένη με τις επόμενες κυβερνήσεις που προσπαθούν, ακόμα και τώρα, να υποβαθμίσουν τα γεγονότα του 1974 και τις δολοφονίες που προκλήθηκαν


https://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/junta.htm

11 comments:

  1. If there is some truth, the rest are lies.

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  2. Sigurd Malfait CAN YOU ELABORATE PLEASE...EVEN BY MEANS OF SOME REFERENCES..I AM DOING MY HOMEWORK ON CLAIMS THAT HUNDA WAS A GOOD THING..BUT I CAN NOT FIND ANYTHING WORTHY OR CREDIBLE ON IT

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  3. Government GangStalking and Electronic Harassment I will look for......

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  4. Sigurd Malfait Thanks,...I rely on you and on your judgment..So far I was not persuaded by supporters of Hunda, based on the material I read which, most of them, were neutral and objective when reporting the pluses and the minuses..

    The pluses, from what I saw, were the financial gains that resulted from Hunda's elimination of government services that were , basically, eliminated not for purpose of inducing financial gain to the Greek people but, rather, to give the Hunda more power by eliminating the branches of government whose authority can obstruct, interfere and prevent Hunda from controlling Greece in the manner that they wanted,.WITH DICTATORSHIP AND NOT DEMOCRACY..

    Am I wrong?

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  5. Much to find ......
    If you have a specific question maybe I can search on google.

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  6. Sigurd Malfait Thanks for the re search..we must have looked at the same sources because some of your references I had included in my list.. In any event I am researching for the reasons that some Greeks still support the HUNDA.. to such a degree that make people like me feel that maybe I don't know enough

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  7. Government GangStalking and Electronic Harassment
    for power and the power of soldiers and for stability of the country ...
    Patriotism. For love for the country and the greek culture , Greek-Orthodox Church, greek language.
    Everywhere, there is americanisation and destruction of the origin culture.

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